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Well I'll be damned...

I was a little weary at first when I heard that this was mainly a Sam's love-life episode, though this was the ep that I've been waiting *months* for.

In all, I loved this ep. There were a few moments where I wanted to roll my eyes. Like the part where we find Sam's married in one, has a baby in another, broke up with Martouf in another (and what's with that, btw?), yadda. Each one of themselves were fine little tidbits, but it was like the gossip was all Carter this and Carter that. If it was supposed to be a team ep, then I'd be in a bit of a huff of not finding out much more of the rest of the SG1 team.

Who else saw Martouf thinking "I've died and gone to heaven... or maybe hell." when he steps into the room full of Sams. *snort*

And was it just me or did they work on changing the body mass for each Sam? The Black!Carter looked a bit bigger than our Carter, right? *shrugs* I watched the ep at 4am, so my sight was probably off, lol.

What happened to our Thor anyhow? *misses him too* ;)

What I wanted more of was the Daniel with the sunglasses. Mmmmm, Yum! He handled them just as well as Jack does. *vbg* That dude had to be military. Or I could obviously just be reaching, but he looked more military than our Daniel does in those matching outfits, lol.

There are missing scenes on Gateworld, and I don't know whether to laugh or cry at PDL. I thought he was the cool one, but recently (like the past couple of years) he seems to be having a love affair with Sam Carter. *shrugs* You'll get what I mean after reading the missing scenes hear:

http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s9/making/913.shtml (read first, then come back to read below unless you want to be spoiled for missing scenes)

Points to icon. Yeah, baby!

They wanted the two universes to be very similar (ie - Bra'tac is in charge of the Jaffa nation, and the Prometheus was destroyed, but otherwise a lot alike) probably to point out that our SG1 isn't all that far off from pulling the same stunt, but at the same time, it gives Daniel/Cameron fans a bit more of an oomph towards canon. *rofl*

And we've got a restaurant! *squees* If that's not used in fic soon... ;)

Obviously that means that Black!Jack and Black!Daniel broke up somewhere and Black!Cameron was there to pick up the pieces, whereas in our universe Jack and Daniel are still very much married. *snort*

Heck, that could be the point where these two univs forked up.

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On January 22nd, 2006, 10:53 pm, jennixen commented:
"Obviously that means that Black!Jack and Black!Daniel broke up somewhere and Black!Cameron was there to pick up the pieces, whereas in our universe Jack and Daniel are still very much married. *snort*"

Fic, I need to write fic now! *zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*

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On January 22nd, 2006, 10:57 pm, artifuss replied:
Weee! Don't forget to mention the restuarant! *nods* ;)
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On January 22nd, 2006, 11:12 pm, audrich commented:
**NOT looking at spoilers, promise**
**NOT looking at spoilers, promise**
**NOT looking at spoilers, promise**

BUT *definately* looking at that icon! OH MAN!
*************slurps************

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On January 22nd, 2006, 11:16 pm, artifuss replied:
*hides spoilers behind her back*

*giggles* Am pretty proud of that icon, lol. ;)

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— On January 22nd, 2006, 11:38 pm, riverfox posted a reply.
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On January 23rd, 2006, 12:30 am, artifuss replied:
Well.... I don't think creating a pornfic story was what you had in mind but... *g*
Woot! pornfic is goods *nods* *eg*

the Idol!Sam stuff drove me insane. I also felt gyped out of my Sam/Janet reunion
*agrees* Imho, it was all about proportions - or the lack thereof.

Sam and Janet were considered to be best friends - heck Sam's now the single parent for the daughter they were raising, and all we get is a hug and a smile at the end? wtf?

Yet we're privy to all of Sam's other exploits... and not much of anything at all for the rest of the team. Though extra stuff was scripted in for the rest of the team - only to be left on the cutting floor (wonder who made those decisions). Why keeping everything Carter was necessary is beyond my comprehension. ;)

Those guys had some serious gaps in morals and ethics.
More cut stuff. I know you have a dislike for gateworld, but maybe make an exception for this one time to read the missing scenes? Or I could copy all the good stuff into a commment box for you, let me know. ;)

but he certainly was in that Marine team
Oooh, hell yes! There was no way he wasn't part of the military in that one version, lol! *100% mind-melting*

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On January 24th, 2006, 04:50 pm, artifuss replied:
I read them, hun.
Oh! Heh. :)

Point is, we know how severely corrupted that team was.
That team was *awesome*. They weren't bad as in mustache bad, but they still had a edge to them that pushed them to be one step away from being our SG1.

I agree with you, it would have been lots of fun to see it played out more.

The "what if" ideas abound. ;)
That's what I love about quantum mirror stories! *bg*

So... where's your fic?? *vbg*

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On January 23rd, 2006, 12:21 am, stephicozar commented:
Oooooooo, EXTRA SCENES! *lufs them and steals them* Restaurant and zoo and Sha're!

I didn't have any real trouble with the Sam's love life parts for a few reasons:
- her and Jack have always been married in an AU. Its icky but its true AND it was because there was no Daniel. All of these universes have a Daniel, so, therefore, next point... :D
- I know they were implying but they never said Jack. Hi Pete! And all of those universes have a Daniel!
- In OUR universe, OUR Sam can't be with Jack because she was bloody quick to start shamelessly flirting with and smootching up Marty with no mention of being 'with someone, we shouldn't do this' :)

So yeah :)

Daniel/Cameron!!!! Almost!canon, wheeee!

I miss Thor, too, but that Asgard was FUNNY! He was a cute one, I liked him a lot. But I still msises Thor *sad face*

*ded of luf*

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On January 23rd, 2006, 12:39 am, artifuss replied:
I didn't have any problems with Sam's love life itself - just that we didn't get any info on anyone else. ;)

When they said she's married, I immediately thought of Pete 'cause this would be around the time that they would've been married if they hadn't broken up, lol.

I *loved* that almost kiss between Sam and Martouf, and how the asgard disrupted it. That was a very cute moment, lol.

I wish there was some way to bring those two back into our univ. *sniffs* Both Janet and Martouf (really really hot in this ep) were fantastic, and SG1 didn't want to let them go. *sniffs*

Daniel/Cameron!!!! Almost!canon, wheeee!
*squees* Why couldn't they keep that clip in?? *sobs* They better have deleted scenes on this seasons box set! *nods* There has to be some way to get a hold of that clip, lol. *is not obsessive... much*

*revives through luf*

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On January 23rd, 2006, 04:44 am, stephicozar replied:
*feels revived* Mmm, thanks - can go watch Ripple Effect again ;P

Oooo, deleted scenes on dvds *wants*
*writes to mgm* I'm sure it wouldn't have added that much time *hurrumph*

*wants Janet* Sam and Janet got a hug but I was surprised that there was nothing prior to that - and that they cut the bit where they told her that Cassie went to stay with her.

link to the rebel!SG-1 in the whatsy camos Its on d_d, too.

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On January 27th, 2006, 06:42 pm, artifuss replied:
link to the rebel!SG-1 in the whatsy camos Its on d_d, too.
*sweet* Is Teal'c wearing something on his head? Or is his hair just really shiny?

*wants Janet* Sam and Janet got a hug but I was surprised that there was nothing prior to that - and that they cut the bit where they told her that Cassie went to stay with her.
Who's Janet? ;)
TR did a really awesome job though. *lufs* That team should totally figure out how to come back, and give us back Janet and Marty! ;)

It could work if they were the last survivors of their world. *nods* Whose to say that they got back home in time?

Oooo, deleted scenes on dvds *wants*
Yes, please! :D Think we could start one of those petitions? lol

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On January 23rd, 2006, 12:57 am, aizjanika commented:
If it was supposed to be a team ep, then I'd be in a bit of a huff of not finding out much more of the rest of the SG1 team.

It was not supposed to be a team episode? I thought it was. :-(

I thought this episode was only fair - good--mainly because of all that Sam stuff and the lack of Daniel stuff, though I loved the Daniel/Teal'c/Janet scenes.

Obviously that means that Black!Jack and Black!Daniel broke up somewhere and Black!Cameron was there to pick up the pieces, whereas in our universe Jack and Daniel are still very much married. *snort*

Exactly! hehe

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On January 23rd, 2006, 01:05 am, artifuss replied:
*shrugs* I don't know, but I like to think it was supposed to be a Sam ep - or else I'd be a bit ticked-off for there not being much of team AU story. ;) It's all mental, lol!

There are a couple Daniel/Teal'c/Janet fics out there that I couldn't really get into (except for pure porny perviness) until watching them in this ep! *lufs* It was so sad the way Daniel hugged Janet. *sniffs*

Exactly! hehe
Hee! :D

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On January 23rd, 2006, 01:19 am, aizjanika replied:
LOL Okay, I see. Yeah, I was pissed off about that and found it overly irritating.

I'm not a Daniel/Janet shipper or anything, but I love Janet and I thought MS, especially, was great in those scenes. :-)

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On January 23rd, 2006, 06:58 pm, artifuss replied:
and I thought MS, especially, was great in those scenes
Oh, my my yes! That hug scene at the end totaly moved me, lol. He was fantastic with Janet the whole way through!
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On January 23rd, 2006, 04:41 am, artifuss replied:
But then I read that restaurant bit and go all: "Hmmmm..."
It's so very delicious, eh? *vbg*

Sam almost kisses Martouf
She was completely giddy in this episode, lol! Perhaps over the years she's been able to figure out which emotions were from her and which ones were from Jolinar and came to realise she had true feelings for Marty. :D That Asgard was too cute, though!

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On January 23rd, 2006, 04:56 am, fangirljen commented:
ALL SPOILERS FROM THE MISSING PIECES. SORRY
I like gossip because it builds character bits, but it really shouldn't be Sam all the time. We needed that Janet bit where she mentioned Cassie, and Our!Daniel said that Cassie's now going to UCLA. How friggin' cool is that? Go Cassie! ((And it was kind of important that Cassie was living with Sam. *grr* Plot point that would have made things that happened to Sam last season a wee bit more complicated.))

With Martouf, I was actually thinking, "Dear Penthouse..." *snicker*

The blue stripe team was VERY military, and yeah, awesome sunglasses. Did you see how in the missing script they were throwing 'frell' around? I liked that part.

Yeah, that restaurant comment? I read that first as being Daniel/Cam's restaurant, too. *cackles* I like the fact that they have a restaurant. It's probably the one SG-1 pre-Cam went to after getting thrown out of and banned from O'Malley's.

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On January 23rd, 2006, 06:55 pm, artifuss replied:
Re: ALL SPOILERS FROM THE MISSING PIECES. SORRY
Did you see how in the missing script they were throwing 'frell' around?
Yeah that was really cute. *bg* So we could say that in that AU, his name isn't Cameron but John and he kept his mother's maiden name Crichton (*nods*). So John came back to Earth, was immediately transfered to their SGC, and got to lead SG1 due to his experience with aliens.

"Dear Penthouse..."
*snickersmadly* It so was a penthouse moment, rofl.

I read that first as being Daniel/Cam's restaurant, too.
That's what it was supposed to be, lol! ;)

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On January 23rd, 2006, 01:41 pm, jr_moon commented:
hee...cool. I still don't see Mitchell and Daniel, but yeah...nice.

I also thought that black!Sam and black!Mitchel were dating actually after the exact scene Peter shot with a kiss. I excpected it. was bracing myself for it actually. *shudders* Don't want that.

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On January 23rd, 2006, 06:31 pm, artifuss replied:
I excpected it. was bracing myself for it actually.
LOL! Same here. Maybe because the rest of the ep was re: Sam's relationships, that we were assuming (like PDL had) that the next logical moment would be a kiss between the two colonels. *snort*

I watched the ep again after reading the missing scenes and had a new appreciation for black!Mitchell/Daniel, lol.

*shudders* Don't want that.
*snort* Even if it's just AU? ;)

*tries to remember* What did you think of Marty? *g*

On January 24th, 2006, 07:43 am, an anonymous reader replied:
*tries to remember* What did you think of Marty? *g*

You are evil? ;-) Well...ok..AU...but..still they look so similar Daniel and Mitchell. They could be brothrs...plus Daniel is Jack's Spacemonkey. *nods*

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On January 24th, 2006, 07:45 am, jr_moon replied:
wtf why am I anonymous??? I am constantly logged in..*is confused*

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